Enlightening and also frustrating convo with Bobby Jon:
(7:38:32 AM) Bobby Jon: hi
(7:38:50 AM) Me: hey
(7:38:54 AM) Bobby Jon: gimme 1 sec ok
(7:38:57 AM) Bobby Jon: r u in a hurry?
(7:38:58 AM) Me: sure
(7:39:00 AM) Me: nah
(7:39:03 AM) Bobby Jon: ok 1 min
(7:40:21 AM) Bobby Jon: ok sorry
(7:40:47 AM) Me: no prob
(7:41:04 AM) Bobby Jon: ok so yeah its us 5
(7:41:11 AM) Bobby Jon: are u really a chick or a guy playing a chcik
(7:41:13 AM) Bobby Jon: chi k
(7:41:17 AM) Me: lol
(7:41:18 AM) Bobby Jon: chick
(7:41:19 AM) Me: i am really one
(7:41:22 AM) Me: u?
(7:41:22 AM) Bobby Jon: hmmm
(7:41:25 AM) Bobby Jon: yeah im a guy
(7:41:35 AM) Me: why, u trying to guess who i am lol?
(7:41:39 AM) Bobby Jon: i never played survivor, but i seen in BB guys play girl characters
(7:42:36 AM) Me: yeah, ive played a guy before just for the hell of it
(7:42:41 AM) Me: but not in a survivor game
(7:42:52 AM) Bobby Jon: ok, so u can be trusted righttttt
(7:42:52 AM) Bobby Jon: lol
(7:42:56 AM) Me: hehe
(7:43:00 AM) Me: i'd like to think so
(7:43:04 AM) Bobby Jon: hmmm is that a wicked laugh
(7:43:16 AM) Me: so i was wondering, how did the alliance come about? who approached who first?
(7:43:22 AM) Me: my laughs are always wicked
(7:43:23 AM) Me:
(7:43:54 AM) Bobby Jon: i contacted Sherea, and she contact Taj and i contacted u and John
(7:44:12 AM) Bobby Jon: i figured if we had 5 ppl alliance that would be a good start
(7:44:20 AM) Bobby Jon: even though we may be mixed up its ok
(7:44:24 AM) Bobby Jon: we g2 survive merge
(7:44:42 AM) Me: yeah i think its a great idea
(7:44:53 AM) Bobby Jon: not so great if someone isnt loyal
(7:44:58 AM) Bobby Jon: lol then we all screwed
(7:44:59 AM) Me: well that the problem
(7:45:02 AM) Me: *that's
(7:45:08 AM) Me: but i spose thats always the problem
(7:45:13 AM) Bobby Jon: right
(7:45:18 AM) Bobby Jon: im hoping we can trust every1 in the alliance
(7:45:20 AM) Me: how do u know if someone will be loyal or not, its kind of hard at this early stage
(7:45:24 AM) Bobby Jon: i feel pretty confident about taj/sherea
(7:45:27 AM) Me: but to flip so early would be rather dumb
(7:45:30 AM) Bobby Jon: right
(7:45:36 AM) Bobby Jon: i mean we have strong numbers right now
(7:45:46 AM) Me: basically then u would paint a big target on ur back for being untrustworthy
(7:45:48 AM) Bobby Jon: and i didnt wanna wait til tribes
(7:46:03 AM) Me: yeah, cos then everyone is scrambling to form alliances
(7:46:26 AM) Bobby Jon: right
(7:46:41 AM) Bobby Jon: im HOPING we are split like 3 / 2
(7:46:49 AM) Bobby Jon: i really dont want all of us on the same tribe
(7:47:02 AM) Me: i always wonder tho, when one is already in an alliance and someone else asks you to be in one, when one doesnt want to align with the new ppl, do u think its wise to say that ur with them, altho obviously arent, or to say u cant be, cos that will get their suspicions up
(7:47:18 AM) Me: altho if one person is stranded they might get picked off
(7:47:37 AM) Bobby Jon: thats true too
(7:47:49 AM) Bobby Jon: but see if we're all in the tribe and we just so happen to lose challenges we're effed
(7:48:27 AM) Me: yeah true
(7:48:34 AM) Me: do we need to win challenges if that happens
(7:48:46 AM) Bobby Jon: hell yes, we always need to win challenges lol
(7:48:49 AM) Bobby Jon: i hope we can win evrey1
(7:48:53 AM) Me: i am good at some stuff, and crap at others. hopefully we'll get challenges i am good at lol
(7:49:15 AM) Me: oh but about the question i posed earlier what do u think?
(7:50:05 AM) Bobby Jon: whats the question, my bad
(7:50:17 AM) Me: (7:47:02 AM) Me: i always wonder tho, when one is already in an alliance and someone else asks you to be in one, when one doesnt want to align with the new ppl, do u think its wise to say that ur with them, altho obviously arent, or to say u cant be, cos that will get their suspicions up
(7:50:43 AM) Bobby Jon: are u trying to tell me ur already in a alliance
(7:50:50 AM) Bobby Jon: cuz if u are tell me, i rather know b4 i find out
(7:51:00 AM) Me: no no i'm not
(7:51:12 AM) Me: it just happened to me in a facebook game, thats why i was asking
(7:51:37 AM) Bobby Jon: whats ur FB, ill add u
(7:51:57 AM) Me: where i didnt know whether to lie to ppl and say yes i am with you, when i wasnt, or to say no i am not, and to arouse their suspicions
(7:52:11 AM) Me: just so i am prepared for if it happens in this game, thats why i was asking ur advice
(7:52:29 AM) Me: arent we sposed to remain anonymous in this game tho?
(7:52:30 AM) Bobby Jon: i mean if any1 asks me i'll say yeah it may be a good idea, we should think about it
(7:52:32 AM) Bobby Jon: but das about it
(7:52:36 AM) Me: oh okay
(7:52:40 AM) Bobby Jon: whats ur FB
(7:53:17 AM) Me: shouldnt we only exchange facebook after the game is over? cos arent we supposed to play anonymously in this game?
(7:53:30 AM) Bobby Jon: nah lol
(7:53:37 AM) Bobby Jon: anything outside the game is cool
(7:54:04 AM) Me: but that takes all the fun out of playing anonymously
(7:54:28 AM) Me: otherwise it brings in outside friendships and alliances, and that usually leads to chaos
(7:54:28 AM) Bobby Jon: im confused lol
(7:54:34 AM) Me: lol
(7:54:37 AM) Bobby Jon: i dont know anyone in these games
(7:54:43 AM) Bobby Jon: im new to this lol
(7:55:19 AM) Me: okay
but i know quite a few ppl in these games usually, so for now would like to keep my identity a secret
but i promise i'll give u my FB after the game
(7:55:45 AM) Bobby Jon: r u POSITIVE ur a female?
(7:56:39 AM) Me: lol yes
(7:56:51 AM) Me: why?
(7:56:55 AM) Me: do i sound male?
(7:57:01 AM) Bobby Jon: lol, yes u have a deep voice
(7:57:34 AM) Me: hahaha
(7:57:40 AM) ***Me clears throat gruffly
(7:57:54 AM) Bobby Jon: idk, its cause in a BB game i caught someone like that
(7:58:22 AM) Me: but this fb game i am playing in, like 4 ppl asked me to be in their alliance, til eventually i was like lying to almost everyone except my real alliance, and it was just chaos, so dont want to end up in that situation again
(7:58:59 AM) Me: ie. i'll try ur advice, say i'll think about it but not actually commit to anything
(7:59:17 AM) Me: the problem is when ppl press u, and u dont commit, then they often say that you are wishy washy and easily flipped
(7:59:25 AM) Me: ah the complexities of survivor lol
(7:59:33 AM) Bobby Jon: see the thing is, it may not be a bad idea to actually join them
(7:59:43 AM) Bobby Jon: problem is u will want to go where the strength lies
(7:59:48 AM) Bobby Jon: and tweeners always get axed
(8:00:17 AM) Me: yeah, i spose, but i am not one of those ppl who can flip on my original alliance
(8:00:28 AM) Bobby Jon: i hope
(8:00:34 AM) Bobby Jon: whats ur real name?
(8:00:38 AM) Me: i just think its a bad idea cos if u do join another one, you will be the first one to be picked off over there
(8:00:52 AM) Bobby Jon: true
(8:01:08 AM) Me: so its trying to stay in between without looking like u are lol
(8:01:20 AM) Me: oh how do u mean u caught someone like that in a BB game?
(8:01:22 AM) Me: that they were male?
(8:01:30 AM) Bobby Jon: yeah they chose a female pic
(8:01:32 AM) Bobby Jon: and was male
(8:01:40 AM) Bobby Jon: but they figured if they were female they'd get away with more
(8:01:47 AM) Bobby Jon: even sent pics to guys on aim n shit
(8:01:50 AM) Bobby Jon: but i caught his ass
(8:02:03 AM) Bobby Jon: cause he went on aim one day and his status was his FB link, a GUY
(8:02:12 AM) Me: hahaha
(8:02:15 AM) Me: thats stupid of him
(8:02:29 AM) Bobby Jon: i didnt rat him out
(8:02:31 AM) Me: yeah i often think that ppl are more open to talk to girl players
(8:02:37 AM) Bobby Jon: instead i blackmailed him to vote the way i wanted every round
(8:02:41 AM) Bobby Jon: lol
(8:02:41 AM) Me: but then often guys are more open to strategising with other guys
(8:02:45 AM) Me: haha
(8:02:47 AM) Me: clever
(8:02:57 AM) Bobby Jon: honestly, i havent talked to anyone as much as I talked to u
(8:03:06 AM) Bobby Jon: i realllly would like to work more with u, strategizing wise and everythin else
(8:03:11 AM) Bobby Jon: i just wanna trust u
(8:03:15 AM) Bobby Jon: u know how it is in these games
(8:03:19 AM) Bobby Jon: can never trust any1 fully
(8:04:14 AM) Me: well u are the first person to PM me, and this is the longest IM convo I have had with anyone, i spoke to Colleen for about 5 mins yesterday when she tols me bout her grandkids. So yes, u can trust me, and I really hope I can trust you
(8:04:24 AM) Me: especially if we go far, i hope i'll be ur number one
(8:05:14 AM) Bobby Jon: what did colleen say
(8:05:15 AM) Bobby Jon: game wise
(8:05:28 AM) Me: we literally spoke nothing about the game
(8:05:37 AM) Me: i can copy paste our convo if u want?
(8:06:20 AM) Bobby Jon: nah its cool
(8:06:25 AM) Bobby Jon: why did u save the convo lol
(8:06:26 AM) Me: i'll pm it to you, its too long for in here
(8:06:35 AM) Me: nah my IM client logs all convos
(8:06:44 AM) Me: its called Pidgin
(8:06:50 AM) Bobby Jon: o but nah i dont wanna see it
(8:06:54 AM) Me: it lets u use a whole lot of IM programs at the same time
(8:06:56 AM) Bobby Jon: i rather see a pic of u
(8:06:56 AM) Bobby Jon: the real u
(8:06:56 AM) Me: okay
(8:07:00 AM) Me: nah
(8:07:07 AM) Me: anonymity remember?
(8:07:26 AM) Me: but nah we didnt get around to talking about the game, she had to go cos her husband came home
(8:07:33 AM) Bobby Jon: i got a strange feeling about this
(8:07:48 AM) Me: have u ever played an anonymous game before?
(8:08:01 AM) Bobby Jon: idk what that is
(8:08:02 AM) Me: cos theyre usually pretty strict about not revealing any real info
(8:08:04 AM) Me: oh
(8:08:22 AM) Me: it means u play as ur character, and are not allowed to reveal any info that might lead ppl to know who u are
(8:08:40 AM) Bobby Jon: ok
(8:09:03 AM) Me: i prefer anonymous games, it leaves all the outside stuff out of it, like ppl who are ur friends or enemies in real life, especially if u play games like this a lot.
(8:09:10 AM) Me: altho i havent played in a while, but i used to
(8:09:29 AM) Bobby Jon: is this the first game in the series for u
(8:09:37 AM) Me: the series?
(8:09:48 AM) Bobby Jon: yeah the survivor series
(8:09:50 AM) Bobby Jon: with this host
(8:09:53 AM) Bobby Jon: like this is season 2
(8:09:55 AM) Me: yeah its my first one
(8:10:03 AM) Bobby Jon: cool
(8:10:14 AM) Me: last proboards survivor game i played was lik 3 years ago lol
(8:10:20 AM) Me: and it was a diff host
(8:10:26 AM) Bobby Jon: how far did u get
(8:10:38 AM) Me: not that far, didnt make the jury
(8:10:45 AM) Me: but it was my first one
(8:10:54 AM) Bobby Jon: cool
(8:11:07 AM) Me: hopefully can go further this time
(8:11:20 AM) Bobby Jon: def def.
(8:11:39 AM) Me: so how much have u chatted to sherea, taj and john?
(8:11:59 AM) Bobby Jon: maybe 2 emails with one or two sentences each
(8:12:04 AM) Bobby Jon: no game talk whatsoever
(8:12:06 AM) Me: oh lol
(8:12:15 AM) Bobby Jon: just alliance ndas it
(8:12:15 AM) Me: well its good we got some game talk out of the way then
(8:12:23 AM) Bobby Jon: i really hope i can trust u
(8:12:28 AM) Bobby Jon: and i really hope u can trust me
(8:12:45 AM) Me: i have already been trying to pick up on things, like Kelly not knowing what AIM was, was that a ploy to look stupid or serious i wonder
(8:13:03 AM) Me: and Amber's AIM name doesnt seem to work
(8:13:11 AM) Me: which is weird
(8:13:50 AM) Bobby Jon: true, but some ppl may not know what AIM is, or even have a AIM
(8:15:03 AM) Me: yeah i know, but i would think ppl would want to get an account, even if its just for the game
(8:15:18 AM) Me: cos if everyone else is talking on AIM, and ur not, ur gonna be at a disadvantage dont u think
(8:15:31 AM) Me: like, for example, right now i trust u the most, cos weve been able to have this convo
(8:15:47 AM) Me: if u never talk to ppl in depth, how can u form strong alliances
(8:15:54 AM) Bobby Jon: thats true
(8:16:02 AM) Bobby Jon: remember ur a pro at this, alot of ppl are rookies
(8:16:08 AM) Bobby Jon: even me, i didnt htink about talking on AIM
(8:17:24 AM) Me: well i'm not sure i'm a pro, i just played in this mafia proboards game once where like almost everything happened over AIM, so i spose i am used to using it
(8:18:01 AM) Bobby Jon: gotya
(8:18:33 AM) Me: we had to post at least 2 convos each episode that we had had with ppl in our confessionals to prove we were active
(8:21:33 AM) Me: so what are u up to at the mo?
(8:21:50 AM) Bobby Jon: nothin much
(8:21:50 AM) Bobby Jon: u
(8:22:04 AM) Me: having a snack
(8:22:09 AM) Bobby Jon: cool
(8:26:03 AM) Bobby Jon: think im about to hit the hay soon
(8:26:11 AM) Me: okay cool
(8:26:16 AM) Me: well it was great touching base
(8:26:18 AM) Bobby Jon: nice talking with u
(8:26:19 AM) Bobby Jon: u2
(8:26:29 AM) Bobby Jon: will u be on for the challenge tomorrow
(8:26:29 AM) Me: i'm sure i'll see u again soon
(8:26:51 AM) Me: yeah, but i might be a few hours late, he did say that it would be a 24 hour challenge, so hopefully that means not live